Turing test for live bank chat (failed)

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I lived in the US between 2000 and 2003, and have since kept a bank account there which – among other things – makes online shopping easier, on occasion. Anyway, my bank over there (which shall remain nameless) has recently changed their policy regarding my account, as my salary is being paid elsewhere: basically they wanted to start charging me a $9.95 monthly fee. I phoned the bank and negotiated a fee waiver for the coming 12 months, so I could then decide whether to transfer across the $1,500 minimum to keep the account fee-free or to just close it and move my few remaining dollars elsewhere.

Today I received a letter saying my account was overdrawn (oh, and that the letter was costing me $35, which makes me even more overdrawn… just like those dratted emails you get to say your inbox is over-quota… <sigh>). I checked online, and – sure enough – I've been getting charged monthly fees and (now) overdraft fees.

It being Veteran's Day (and the middle of the night, California time), I decided to give their online chat a whirl. With very interesting results that I simply couldn't resist sharing. This isn't the first chat I'd started with one of the bank's online specialists: I'd previously got quite far into the discussion with someone called Caleb, but the browser-based chat window somehow navigated back to the previous page as I was typing (probably due to user error, but at the time I thought I'd hit the backspace key).

Before we move on to the chat itself, here is my question to you. If this chat were a Turing test, would you declare Cassandra human or computer? From my side I'm even now not sure whether I was communicating with a human that was having trouble deploying canned responses or a mildly deranged bot. Comments welcome.

 

Welcome to an online chat session at Bank X. Please hold while we connect you to the next available Bank X Online Banking Specialist. Your chat may be monitored and recorded for quality purposes. Your current wait time is approximately 0 minutes. Thank you for your patience.
Thank you for choosing Bank X. You are now being connected to a Bank X Online Banking Specialist.

Cassandra: Thank You for being a Valued Bank X Customer, I am Cassandra, specialist in personal checking and savings accounts opened in California, may I have your Full Name as on Bank Statement & last four digits of your account number?
Kean: Kean Walmsley, xxxx
Cassandra: Thank you, Kean.
Cassandra: Good morning!
Cassandra: Please let me know how may I assist you today?
Kean: I started a chat with Caleb, but when I use the backspace key the chat closed. 🙁
Kean: I have some issues with unwarranted charges on my account
Cassandra: I am sorry to know that. Please do not worry. I will try my best to help you.
Kean: I was informed by Bank X some time ago of a change in policy related to my account
Cassandra: As I understand that there are some unauthorized transactions on your account am I correct in understanding this?
Kean: I now live in Switzerland, so only keep my Bank X account open in case I come back to the US
Kean: Not unauthorized, as such
Kean: Account fees + overdraft fees (because of the account fees)
Kean: I spoke with Bank X a few months ago, and they agree to waive the fees on my account for the next year
Cassandra: I understand your concern regarding the fees.
Cassandra: I will surely check this for you.
Cassandra: Please give me a moment while I access your account.
Cassandra: Thank you for your patience, Kean.
Cassandra: As you are promised that your account will be reverse with the account fees, I will be able to refund you the $9.95 fees.
Kean: And the two $35 overdraft fees?
Cassandra: As you are a valued Bank X customer Let me check what best I can do for you.
Cassandra: I see that your account is overdrawn on 10/26 for the amount of $55.65.
Cassandra: As there were no funds in your account your account is assessed with the fees.
Kean: The amount of $55.65 took me overdrawn by $25 or so, part of which was due to the $10 fees I was being charged
Kean: As I said, I access/use this account very rarely, so was not aware of going overdrawn by $15
Kean: But I've since received $70 in fees for that $15
Kean: Plus the account fees
Cassandra: Yes, I do understand your concern here, Kean.
Cassandra: Let me check what best I can do for you at this point oftime.
Cassandra: After close review of your accounts I am unable to refund you the fee of $70.00 overdraft fees to your account and also the monthly fees to your account. Trust me I really tried my best to in refunding you the fee.

Cassandra: May I proceed with the refund to your account?
Kean: What are you going to refund?
Cassandra: I am refunding you $70.00 overdraft fees to your account.
Cassandra: And also the monthly fees of $9.95 to your account.
Kean: That's great: I'm confused because you just said you couldn't
Cassandra: I am sorry for the confusion.
Kean: Please go ahead with the refund
Cassandra: I literally tried my best in refunding you the fees, Kean. Trust me.
Cassandra: I have successfully applied $70.00 refund to your account and also the $9.95 to your account. Please allow 2 business days for the refund to post your account.

Kean: I was charged multiple $9.95 fees (one around 9/26 and one on a month later).
Kean: Will I continue to be charged on a monthly basis?
Cassandra: I see that you have a Standard checking account it requires minimum daily balance of $1,500.00. And the monthly fees is charged for the amount of $9.95 if you do not maintain this balance.
Cassandra: I will be able to refund you the two months account fees for you.
Kean: Thank you
Cassandra: You are welcome.
Kean: I understand about the $1,500 minimum: I was told I would have 12 months to decide whether to transfer the money or to close the account
Kean: They said they would apply some waiver to the fees for those 12 months
Kean: I assume that has not happened
Cassandra: I see that there is no waiver on your account thus the reason your account is assessed with the fees.
Cassandra: I have a suggestion for you.
Cassandra: May I?
Kean: Sure
Cassandra: I see that you have a good account history with us. Based on your ac
count history with us they will be able to place a waiver on your account. Once the waiver is placed on your account your account will not be assessed with any fee.
Kean: That'd be great
Cassandra: Usually you need to visit the Banking center to get the wavier placed on your account.
Cassandra: As you are out of U.S.A I will be able to help you with the branch number who will be able to place a waiver on your account.
Cassandra: May I help you with the Branch number for you?
Kean: If you could give me the San Rafael branch, I can call them directly.
Cassandra: Yes, yes. I was talking about the same. I will help you with the San Rafael branch.
Cassandra: The branch number is 415-555-5555.
Kean: Thank you. Are they closed today for Veteran's Day?
Cassandra: Yes, they are closed today, I request you to please contact them tomorrow.
Cassandra: I personally apologize for all this trouble, Kean.
Kean: That's fine - I appreciate your help with the refunds.
Cassandra: I thank you for your understanding in this matter.   
Cassandra: I have successfully applied $70.00 refund and the account fees for you. Please allow 2 business days for the refund to post your account.
Cassandra: Is there anything else I may assist you with?
Kean: That is all, thank you again.
Cassandra: We certainly give in our best when it comes to customers like you.
Cassandra: Bye! Take care! Have a great day!!
Cassandra: Have a wonderful time and keep smiling!!

5 responses to “Turing test for live bank chat (failed)”

  1. I've had the same type of chat session with represenatives from my cable company. Maybe there really is software out there doing this?

  2. it would appear that this example is a hybrid human computer assistant.. it would appear that the computer takes the time to gather the information, and once a level of information is gathered a little red light blinks at the workstation to be supplement the computer bot with a real person. next time i would ask "how is the weather" and if the reply is mis understood, i would then ask "can i speak to a human.

    the unfortunate thing is that companies save money by doing this to wast millions of innocent customers time... arrrg. but i guess its better then being on hold for 2 hours to talk to a tech... have you ever tried to call pannasonic, no joke... 2 hours, but at least i was getting paid for it? sometimes its just not worth it, ya know.

  3. Yes, it's almost certainly a human-computer hybrid of some sort (perhaps an evolutionary step for us all, we'll see).

    On the plus side they were able to resolve my issue, it's just the experience was surreal. And the fact that it was so interesting at an abstract level made it much more worthwhile than the whole phone queue thing (I'd actually just been navigating such a system for 10 minutes before getting to the point I could "press 0 to speak with an operator", only to find everyone offline for Veteran's Day :-S).

    My assumption regarding the chat was that the human operator was provided with a number of canned responses (suitably randomised with synonyms and possibly the odd typo) from which they could choose the most appropriate one to (optionally) customise further. The fact there were a number of consecutive, contradictory responses made me assume the operator had fat finger syndrome.

    While fun the first time I'd hate to have to do this every day, I have to say.

    Kean

  4. Hello Kean,

    Since this blog is blocked in China, and maybe some other countries, Is it possible to feed the whole post content in RSS so that it can be read in some rss reader such as google reader?

    Thanks much,
    Layman

  5. Hello Layman,

    I originally did post full RSS content for my blog - back in the early days - but switched to a summary + link fairly quickly: it's considered inappropriate to have RSS feed files spanning multiple megabytes (which could often be the case given the amount of content on the majority of my posts), plus I have a tendency to only see (and fix) certain typos once the posts are live.

    I know this isn't ideal for China, but perhaps you can find another way to get the content, such as using Firefox + TOR, which I've been told works (albeit very slowly).

    Regards,

    Kean

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